Re: <nettime> Europe and the MAGA mind virus

[André Rebentisch via nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org>]

This kind of communication makes it appear as if JD
though we may not agree with him delivered a strong powerful
message, he was the man.

The opposite is true: The speech was off-topic and served no
purpose. No one prepared him what to do at the MSC.
He made a complete fool out of himself.

Let us recall, one of his talking points was that a Swedish court
sentenced a right wing activists who burned the Quran. Another,
an Irakian, was murdered.

The only relevant aspect here for the MSC is the memory that
Turkey delayed Swedish entry into NATO based on theses Quaran
burnings of few individuals.

So what would Mr Vance expect his audience to do? Request a
change of Swedish laws so that Quarans could be burned freely?

Or let a Court apply the law differently because a person who did
the same was murdered?

Best.
André





Am Di., 18. Feb. 2025 um 01:05 Uhr schrieb Mez Breeze via nettime-l <
nettime-l@lists.nettime.org>:

> It’s no wonder that Europe is rattled: what’s more surprising is the length
> of its denial. Vance’s pronouncement[s] in Munich simply confirms what
> countless signals have been telegraphing for years. The old paradigm of
> Western unity is cracking.
>
> And while Europe balks at America’s abrupt renunciation of the old order,
> it must also confront that many of its own nations are lurching
> [far]rightward. Look at Germany’s Alternative für Deutschland [which
> steadily feeds on discontent] or the momentum behind populist leaders like
> Italy’s Meloni. There’s Viktor Orbán, + there's also Austria's Freedom
> Party. Meanwhile France reels in its own brand of chaos dealing with
> fractious politics that swing between protest movements and establishment
> fatigue [is no corner of Europe immune?].
>
> Meanwhile here in Australia we're bracing for our own 2025 white-knuckle
> ride as the nation slides into a pre-federal-election hype cycle, with an
> unsettling [but definitely not surprising] echo of Trumpian tactics wielded
> by Peter Dutton and his [confusingly named] right-wing Liberal-National
> Coalition [or LNP]. Dutton's pledge for a Musk-inspired “Department of
> Government Efficiency” rings of the same populist drumbeat we’ve seen
> reverberate across the globe: efficiency as a euphemism for slashing
> oversight + curtailing dissent + centralizing power.
> - Mez
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 3:25 AM David Garcia via nettime-l <
> nettime-l@lists.nettime.org> wrote:
>
> > Europe is reeling from the unsurprising message of JD Vance’s speech in
> > Munich last week that (news flash) Trump meant it all along. And we must
> > take him "literally not just seriously". It really is and has always been
> > America 1st. NATO's article 5 and protecting Europe are no longer on the
> > menu.
> >
> > The old ideological basis of fighting communism has long gone and the
> > Trumpian regime has moved swiftly to dispense with established
> commitments
> > and alliances. Some have seen it as a return to the great power carve up
> of
> > Yalta, but that makes little sense when there can be no trust. As any new
> > treaty will have to rely on an erratic protagonist happy to throw
> previous
> > long-standing allies under any available bus.
> >
> > So from the perspective of what serves the interests of the MAGA mind
> > virus, is there any downside to this “shock and awe” program? Right now,
> it
> > must look like it’s all upside. In that Europe (who has only itself to
> > blame) has been shaken out of its delusional slumber. And is struggling
> to
> > adapt to the realisation that the old order’s bi-polar logic no longer
> > applies. As we are fracturing into multiple competing states the old left
> > vs right dichotomy appears to have been superseded by autocratic
> > technocracy vs autocratic populism, with the latter currently in the
> > driving seat.
> >
> > So once again is there a downside from a Trumpian perspective to this
> > campaign and if so what does it look like? Maybe we should start with its
> > potential impact on hi-tech global manufacturing’s continued dependence
> on
> > complex supply chains? Where will the great unravelling of this hubristic
> > maelstrom appear?
> >
> > David Garcia
> >
> >
>
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