Newmedia on Wed, 1 Dec 1999 03:17:06 +0100 (CET) |
[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]
Re: <nettime> The Matrix: Keanu lost in Plato's Cave |
McKensie: I like the way that you conflate "humanism" (of the neo-Platonist, Florentine sort) with what most people would call the "enlightenment" (of the Newtonian/Comentian sort). McLuhan's "Gutenberg Galaxy" is a good place to ground oneself in this common cause. While there are various forms of "magicians" operating in these waters, in particular North/South and East/West forms, and despite the fact that many developments of the past 400+ years (particularly in warfare, right up through psychological warfare) are a result of conflicts between these "magicians", you are undoutedly correct to put all the "magicians" in the same leaky boat. I am however curious as to why you propose, "The options are to go back to theology, or to try and invent a new way of thinking . . ."? Why not do both? In particular, I would suggest that the critical role played by "formal causality" in theology points towards some fruitful avenues for "a new way of thinking." Don't you think? If we recall that "form" is "structure", then isn't it our task to understand the "structures of experience"? Particularly, if we are aiming to invent a "new" one? Best, Mark Stahlman P.S. The incorporation of these matters, particularly ones discussed on nettime and environs, into "popular culture" is clearly accelerating. I would draw your attention to yesterday's NYTimes (Sunday, 28 Nov. 99) lead Op-Ed, Kurt Andersen's "The Next Big Dialectic: Cyber-captialism will ignite a new class struggle. A new Marx is sure to follow." Any suggestions as to whom that Marx might be? Could it be McLuhan? Maybe Richard Barbrook knows. <g> P.P.S. I have a copy of the script for "The Matrix" if you'd like to check Morpheus' actual words. <g> BTW, the Greeks had multiple "gods" who ruled over dreams. Morpheus was the one who gave us dreams of "humans." # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net