Allan Siegel on Wed, 30 Nov 2022 10:31:52 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Moving Nettime to the Fediverse |
Hello,This is a good move with exciting possibilities. The fediverse is in an expansive mood right now with a massive influx of people; an intensely evolving social space with strong anti-corporate sensibilities. A forest with trees, paths to be explored - a refreshing landscape with a different communication toolbox (or maybe something from the past now reconfigured?).
best allan On 11/30/22 01:34, nettime's mod squad wrote:
Dear nettimers, Nettime was founded at a time when, as quaint as it sounds, email was exciting. That's long since gone for those who experienced it, let alone for those who didn't. Discussion-oriented mailing lists like this are, in a word, over, technically *and* culturally. It's time to think more attentively about whether or how nettime can evolve beyond email and its peculiar 'list culture.' And it's not just email. The edifices that have displaced and replaced lists are on the rocks too. Twitter is widely thought to be going over a cliff as Facebook, already graying, sinks under the weight of its "Metaverse." As more and more people cast around for alternatives, net.critique has become a bit of a thing again. We say: let's ditch the mailing list and start moving to the fediverse. Toward this end, we've set up an instance < https://tldr.nettime.org > with the following bare-bones "about": tldr.nettime is an instance for artists, researchers, and activists interested in exploring the intersections of technology, culture, and politics. It has grown out of nettime-l, one of the longest-running mailing lists on the net — in particular, on the 'cultural politics of the internet'. tldr.nettime is based on Hometown, a fork of Mastodon. It's compatible with the wider fediverse, but it also offers two tweaks we hope will help make it unusually fruitful: * The character count per message is higher — 2000 chars at the moment. * You can choose whether your post is public or visible only on tldr's local timeline and only to tldr's members. Aside from that, everything is raw by design: it's for those who make the move to define what this instance will be and how we can make it useful. This is a chance to move beyond nettime's shrinking in-group, so feel free to invite others. Our goal is to keep tldr to a size where the local timeline remains a useful tool for an actual, not rhetorical, community; how big that is remains to be seen. In the longer run, we won't maintain two infrastructures, one for email, one for the fediverse. At some point we'll close one — ideally, which one will be a collective decision. So, we hope this is the beginning of change in every sense, hopefully including some of the imbalances that have plagued the mailing list for many years. There's no clear path or process ahead, so this is a free-form, open invitation to get involved. As they say: be the change you want to see on nettime. See you on the other side Doma, Felix & Ted # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
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