Re: <nettime> please read - and how can this possibly be combatted?

[Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com>]

On Sat, 5 May 2018, Heiko Recktenwald wrote:

> Alan,
>
> Am 05/05/18 um 04:53 schrieb Alan Sondheim:
> > > Isnt that in the story of the Tower of Babel? Maybe we should read it
> > > again.
> >
> > or the opposite, every thing and every one speaking exactly the same
> > digital terrain, the same protocols. even in one of 'my' areas of
> > interest, non-western instrumentation, the well-tempered western scale
> > and accompanying musics have been increasingly dominant.
>
> But isnt this allready the end? The same protocols and no content. Well
> tempered.

flat, absorbed -

> > > less pessimistic. What is that "knowledge" of fb? Cant we laugh about
> > > it? And what is new in our "mass-psychology"? What people may do one
> > > day? A question of speed?
> > depends on what knowledge or knowledging of fb one's concerned with -
>
> For marketing it may be better than nothing. But the rest is speculation.

it's the carapace that surrounds the user on Fb; there's very little 
control over appearance; the settings are a joke. it's designed for 
data-mining - almsot impossible for example to keep 'recent' from 'top' in 
the feed - the latter already shaping one's perception of one's personal 
sphere. there's also constant attempts to mine phone numbers and to give 
fb control of the computer - repeatedly asking if it can add notifications 
to your screen even when the medium's closed - which creates the constant 
presence of fb, no matter what.

> > > There are some problems of dataownership that have mostly to do with
> > > sharing that data. What did Cambridge do wrong? They didnt pay. As if
> > > science would not be free.
>
> That Robert Mercer wrote an email in january that sounded very much like
> Timothy Leary...
>
>
> "Question authority"...
>
>
> Some of the opening questions of that Zuckerberg hearing were very good.
Unfortunately didn't hear this -

> Feinstein was very stupid. I like those details. Maybe a starter in the
> time of Babel.
>
>
> That Donald was a present. He creates cases that we need.
He creates cases that brutally tear families apart -

Best, Alan

> Best, H.

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