tobias c. van Veen on Wed, 7 Jun 2006 17:56:34 +0200 (CEST) |
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<nettime> hear ye, hear ye... truce for NNA discussion |
greetings Nettime, There is an entire backroom / backyard discussion going on right now to this List, the Gathering, etc., and none of it is being revealed here, for all kinds of reasons. The main reason has to do with the Fear, of posting to this list (or perhaps I am wrong .. this being up to consideration). I'd thus like to call for a TRUCE, what activists call a SAFE SPACE ..where people can post without fear of being eaten alive by the Lions, (as a recent email to me personally put it in such classical terms). On the offlist there's been talk as to how Nettime is FRAGILE, how Everything here is DiY, so methinks some of this fragility could be revealed a bit ... without fragility there is little love for something, to see it grow, as it appears as an impermeable facade, which is certainly not the case. When throwing NNA it was obvious we were playing with symbols. I think the symbolic power of Nettime has the potential to kickstart energy, and I think it did, actually, do something along those lines in Montreal. But instead of the energy returning to a list in the form of words, it spread into actions: people meeting each other & more dots being connected between existing networks. And who is to say this wasn't the better form of energy conversion..? Yet, for the sake of many things -- not the least, the archive, the sense of this list's identity, and its coherency, as well as a resevoir of symbolic capital that must be replenished if borrowed in such a manner -- it also needs to return here in words, unless the silence become a mark of something else.... an exodus and/or judgement. So we return to posting. And so this is where we are at with the Nettime dynamic now & it is not the same as other groups or that of the gathering, where the same persons asked questions & participated who now are reluctant to post. We have to actively make this space, methinks, and I'm not even sure how to do that in a written space such as this. But perhaps addressing the obvious will aid in allowing us to move onwards... best, tobias tobias c. van Veen _Concept Engineer - Director, Upgrade Montréal http://theupgrade.sat.qc.ca | @ : + (SAT) Society for Arts and Technology Montréal, Canada | http://www.sat.qc.ca - ----- End forwarded message ----- # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net