Heiko Recktenwald on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:16:53 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> Indymedia Italy under attack ++ Re: <nettime> Vinc Cerf |
digested @ nettime Re: <nettime> Indymedia Italy under attack Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Re: <nettime> Vinc Cerf: The Internet is for Everyone Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:46:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Subject: Re: <nettime> Indymedia Italy under attack Continuity, well yesterday I met somebody from italy and she said, that she sees no problem with that law: On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, me wrote: > > btw, can you or somebody else give us an update on the old italian laws > for journalists, there is some chamber for journalists from the Mussolini > paper time, all paper journalists must be and are members, that is > incompatible with the idea of a free press and made problems for online > journalists/writers some month ago ? How can she say this ? She sees it like the chamber for other professions. The old problem of the chamberisation of free professions. Seen in this way it would affect only professional writers, not freedom of speech per se. Any comments ? H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:58:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Subject: Re: <nettime> Vinc Cerf: The Internet is for Everyone > everyone" over and over again. a noble goal but what he fails is to define > what he means with "the internet". he pictures an internet that growth > exponentially. but into what kind of internet? does he mean a big shopping > mall? Had a discussion about exactly this with some activ member of the internet society and he ashured me, sometime ago, that it means an internet where everybody can be a sender of information. More than just a "space of ecommerce". It sounded like a revival of the old internet ideas. H. ------------------------------ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net