<nettime> shouting 'fire' in a crowded boardroom [cisler, recktenwald, memmott]

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Re: <nettime> Corporate Free Speech Battle is Escalating
     "Steve Cisler" <cisler@pobox.com>
     Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
     "Talan Memmott" <talan@percepticon.com>

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From: "Steve Cisler" <cisler@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Corporate Free Speech Battle is Escalating
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:02:12 -0700

     So, let me get this straight: a corporation can sell my
     Social Security number, because to prevent them from doing
     so would be a violation of their "First Amendment rights",
     but for me, it's "use Napster, go to jail"?
     
     --
     Curt Hagenlocher
     curth@motek.com

Some years ago there was an op-ed piece floating around (never quite
made it to a newspaper) that argued that computer viruses had "First
Amendment Rights" to self expression.

I'm sure there have been academic papers on the extension of 'rights'
out of the individual human category and into corporations, animals,
cultures, babies, vegetation, as well as computer code (viruses).

Steve Cisler

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Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:47:59 +0200 (CEST)
From: Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Corporate Free Speech Battle is Escalating

> So, let me get this straight: a corporation can sell my
> Social Security number, because to prevent them from doing
> so would be a violation of their "First Amendment rights",

This is the "commercial speech doctrine". The other side of
dataprotection. It goes a little bit far.

H.

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From: "Talan Memmott" <talan@percepticon.com>
Subject: RE: <nettime> Corporate Free Speech Battle is Escalating
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:06:24 -0700


I am wondering when corporations will take over defense installations...

Like, AOL/TimeWarner operating its own NORAD station.

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nettime-l-request@bbs.thing.net]On Behalf Of Curt Hagenlocher
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:35 AM
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> Subject: <nettime> Corporate Free Speech Battle is Escalating
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> http://www.latimes.com/business/20010527/t000044302.html
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> "Business leaders exult in what they say is a long-overdue
> recognition that corporations have constitutional rights
> too.
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