| Alan Sondheim on 12 Jan 2001 05:43:44 -0000 |
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| [Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> don't Disassociate Webdesign (as an aspect of appengineering) from Usability |
I hardly find this a 'deeply boring age' - if anything, judging by the email lists I commoderate or online conferences I've participated in, things are incredibly wide-open. Some flash is boring and some leaves me awestruck, and what affects me might well not affect someone else. I'm fascinated by the world-wide dissemination of online media, and atti- tudes. Maybe I'm naive, but the Net still on occasion fills me with wonder. Re: flash animations 'empty and meaningless' - for whom? This isn't an absolute modernism here; as you point out, it's numerous discourses. I also think there's more dialog going on than you might see or be willing to admit - I'm thinking of open-source, or the program URLs Chris Pirillo sends out on his list, or the tremendous variety you can get in linux guis, for better or worse. Most portal pages _are_ terrible and most flash and java for that matter are not only unncessary, but also take up cpu and user time when they load (if they even load properly; Opera 5.01 is fairly jumpy). One's trying to please components of corporate, geek, and consumer cultuers. What surprises me about your post, though, is the other, the fin-de-de-de- siecle ennui that seems to inhabit it. Finally, I don't see our worlds or worldings as perfect or self-referen- tial; if anything they're open, porous, ragged, hacked, cracked, dissemin- ated, etc. Again that sounds like a kind of modernism to me, or what I'd associate with conceptualism - which did attempt that sort of referential- ity. - Alan Internet Text at http://www.anu.edu.au/english/internet_txt Partial at http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/internet_txt.html Trace Projects at http://trace.ntu.ac.uk/writers/sondheim/index.htm CDROM of collected work 1994-2000/1 available: write sondheim@panix.com _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold