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Josephine: Thanks one again for . . . the help with Zizek. As you know, I've found Zizek to be one of the more interesting voices on nettime (or elsewhere of late) and I regret that I didn't succeed in getting more of his work translated into English when that project first was broached as I was strolling down the streets of Ljubljana. However, I'm not at all sure that what Zizek means by the "symbolic order" -- particularly as you discuss this as something that is (nearly?) alive and can take on "human" qualities, such as "tart-ness" -- isn't closely related to what I mean by the "electric media environment." Perhaps it would be useful to compare and contrast these phrases at some point? You might also recall that I enjoy playing with words, exploring their etymologies, mixing-up specialist jargons and flipping over ossified meme-isms. Maybe some more of that would be helpful under the circumstances? (Afterall, language is the UR-medium and therefore the UR-message.) The widely noted process (on nettime and everywhere else thoughtful people congregate) of losing our capacity to ACT . . . in-this-world, as artists, as thinkers, as humans, is intimately correlated with the rise of electricity in 19th century Europe, it would seem. Pre-electricity, as I "read" things, this loss really wasn't a concern of any great magnitude. People invented, created, thought, acted without much concern that they would be ignored, brushed aside, treated as wallpaper, consumed as just more media "content." More spectacle. More virtuality. More entertainment. More phatic communion. Pre-electricity . . . ideas mattered, paintings mattered, gestures mattered . . . people mattered. While the notion that by adopting inventions -- let's just say "media" -- as extentions to our human faculties that we undergo a correlative "externalization" and thus an "amputation" of those same faculties is plain enough, what could it have been -- other than electricity -- which allowed us to extend our own nervous systems? Thus "externalizing" and "amputating" our nerves from our "selves"? At some point, you might imagine, if you "amputate" enough of your nervous system, you could rightly wonder if you are still human. Indeed, if you might wonder if "you" still exist . . . as "you." At some point in this process, doesn't "humanity" itself potentially "dis-appear"? Could this have already happened? Isn't this what Nietzsche (and thus everyone since Nietzsche) was noticing? The "dis-appearance" of the "Individual"? That "externalized" and "amputated" nervous system -- coming "alive" and replacing "human" agency with its own "prerogative" -- is simply what I mean by our "electric media environment." (And, could that "prerogative" include what McLuhan refers to as a "ideological machine"?) How does this (perhaps more historic and dynamic) description differ from Zizek's various treatments of his "symbolic order"? Are we talking about variants of the same phenomena? As we lost more and more of our "selves" to this "environment" and, along with it, our capacity to ACT, you might imagine that there would be an increased inclination to try to compensate for this loss by trying to "buy" some of it back. Perhaps one could "buy" some "magic" or something that would give us some of the "power" that had been so cruelly "amputated" by "electric media." Thus, the potential temptation to "sell" our "mortal souls" to gain some capacity to leverage the world once again would seen quite natural. It strikes me as no accident that the rise of both "ideology" and of "occultism" from, say, 1850 on, co-incided with the rise of the "electric media environment." (Nor it is an accident, that the "ideologues" and the "occultists" were often the same people. Annie Besant, for instance. Or, Hitler.) So, with the rise of the "electric media environment," the trials of "Faust" move from the realm of "myth" towrds an everyday occurance. In order to ACT, under "electric" conditions where one is in-exorably losing the capacity to ACT, one finds oneself "selling" what is most precious to "buy" back that lost "power." ("Tarts", anyone?) Without much fear regarding the results, I attempted to explore the implications of an association between this "Faustian" SELLING-OUT of your deepest critical faculties with adopting the posture of "ACTIVISM" at a forum last night with Langdon Winner. And, all this was even happening at the NY Open Center, too -- Manhattan's center of things newly "occult." It would be safe to say that he wasn't amused. <g> Perhaps you are? Best, Mark Stahlman _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold